Business strategy · October 2026

Views without installs? 9 talks on creator app marketing

Paying creators for app videos and getting views without installs? Superwall Podcast guests from Cal AI, Halo AI, Jungle and SideShift share what converts.

You paid a creator. The video got views. The installs never came.

Guests on The Superwall Podcast, hosted by Joseph Choi, keep running into that gap. Superwall makes paywall software for mobile apps, so the guests are consumer app founders and the people who run their creator programs.

Lots of views. Where are the installs?

Alfie Dickens learned it on Cal AI. Cooking videos looked perfect for a calorie tracker, and they did badly.

Jay Raavi once had a 300,000-view video with 174 likes. Now he judges a format by how many people keep watching.

Start small, then pay for what works

Never paid a creator? Start with Nick Lawton's $2,000 test budget. He co-founded SideShift, a creator marketplace, so he sees what other apps spend.

Dillion Verma skipped variety altogether. Halo AI ran one format across 85 creators.

Some of this will make you uncomfortable. Evan Yadegari bought followers for his outreach accounts at 14. Matt Espinoza clones winning videos and seeds Reddit threads to shape AI answers. They both say so on the record.

Bring your last campaign

Pull up the numbers from your last creator video before you listen. Who watched it? Who installed? What did you pay?

Pick one change a guest made, and try it on your next deal.

If nobody has paid yet, start with the Superwall founders on launching and selling.

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